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    What the fuck happened to this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCPRuckus View Post
    executing people for ... mistakenly putting the trash out too early.


    Quote Originally Posted by JCPRuckus View Post
    It is completely predictable that parents will leave their children unattended with the console for short periods of time (it's even predictable that they'll do so for extended periods). So not including some way to prevent them from accidentally spending money on the machine is totally irresponsible on the company's part.

    Furthermore, it's far more efficient for the world if OUYA solves the problem preemptively, than if everyone must constantly monitor every second of their child's play
    Even if the parent was in the room, the could be doing something as simple as reading a book, talking with another person in the room, or even just glancing away and in the few seconds they aren't paying attention it would be easy enough for the kid to press a couple buttons and charge the money anyway.
    Last edited by bagheadinc; 06-10-2013 at 02:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airman View Post
    What the fuck happened to this thread?
    1. Overzealous Conservative meets Rational Liberal
    2. World Ends
    3.???
    4. Profit

    So just try and ride it out. I'm pretty sure this ends with a payday...

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    I feel like this thread is losing it's way. Please remain on topic or I will have to take actions. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o MELTDOWN o View Post
    I feel like this thread is losing it's way. Please remain on topic or I will have to take actions. Thank you.
    I don't know that this thread ever had much potential beyond a string of, "That's f---ed up!", comments. So the derailment was hardly a great loss. On that note...

    THAT'S F---ED UP!!!... Lol

    - Edit - Check that... Those two garbage related videos are actually a better result than this thread was headed for prior to the derailment... Why did he tear up the mailbox???... Lol - Edit -
    Last edited by JCPRuckus; 06-10-2013 at 04:46 AM.

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    The fact that the garbage man was so pissed and they were filming it leads me to believe they had crazy glued some trash to the bottom of the barrel. My guess was he was like F these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireballs View Post
    The fact that the garbage man was so pissed and they were filming it leads me to believe they had crazy glued some trash to the bottom of the barrel. My guess was he was like F these people.
    That makes a lot of sense. It does look like he tries to pull something out of the can. Anyway, him tearing up the mailbox is the "one step too far" that really makes it hilarious. I mean he. lost. his. shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by o MELTDOWN o View Post
    I feel like this thread is losing it's way. Please remain on topic or I will have to take actions. Thank you.
    See why it doesn't work, Meltdown? When a thread is losing its way, it's already too late...
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    The "overzealous" bit brought me back to this for a bit longer (so impossible to believe that it's actually both parties that are having a rational debate?)

    I tend to leave moral crusading to the rational liberals myself - what I was highlighting in my original and subsequent posts was that the immediate response in these situations is to point blame at others, rather than asking the oft-overlooked question of "Could the person(s) involved have done more to prevent this?"

    Neither you nor I know the answer to that question - only the people involved do.

    After this it's kind of lost the plot a bit with exaggerated hypothetical situations (Not sure when I said we could execute people for taking their rubbish out too early - but unreasonable to expect that if someone set their clock wrong and went into work an hour late that they would have to face a consequence of that?)and the 'punishment' not being proportionate. This isn't what I was highlighting -

    Quote Originally Posted by JCPRuckus View Post
    Furthermore, it's far more efficient for the world if OUYA solves the problem preemptively, than if everyone must constantly monitor every second of their child's play. It doesn't make sense for individuals to resolve a problem over and over again when it could be avoided by one central action. There is a burden of responsibility on all parties involved in any transaction. The question is, "What particular part of it is best assigned to which party?" Assigning blame to the single business is simply a more efficient way to prevent the problem than trying to educate every individual that might potentially find themselves in a similar position. Whatever the defrayed cost of the steps taken to prevent it in the future, will be more than made up by the assurance each customer has that they need not worry about it.
    - this is (and the basis for our differing viewpoints). You believe that companies should protect us from our own actions - I do not.

    In this - and many other situations that have been negatively highlighted in the media - you believe it is simply easier and more efficient to attribute the blame to the business and expect them to rectify (and prevent) actions from individuals.

    I, on the other hand, believe that individuals have a duty of care to themselves to ensure they do what they are able to minimise the potential of them being in a situation that they did not want to be in.

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