FINALLY got my ouya...

[alo]

99% of "indie" games are just garbage or amateur and lack quality and polish.

You're never going to get anything out of an Ouya, then.

[dcninja123]

why would you believe in something that is failing out the gate? Don't defend it for what you wish it was, hate it for what it is. It has "launched" as it's in our hands. Nobody donated anything. Read the kickstarter eula. We were promised a console in exchange for our money, that is a legal SALE. Nothing was gifted buddy. It clearly has zero great games.

to elaborate on my indie games are garbage blahblahblah...

The same games have been created in better quality, or in flash. There's nothing great about someone reinventing the wheel, and a bad one at that.

[alo]

Don't defend it for what you wish it was, hate it for what it is.

You hate it for what it is, and that's your prerogative. I like it for what it is, because I don't have the same assumptions about what it was supposed to be. Let's just go our own way on this, no?

[Xun]

I have had enough of the nonsense "dcninja123" is spouting.

So what if most of the games are ports or are uninteresting? Better and original titles are on the way as indie and big-time developers alike now have the means with which to create these games without investing more money than is necessary into licensing, development and distribution.

Also, it must be remembered that this platform *is* barely a year old and *is* Kickstarter based. While it's true that, as a result of those circumstances, it has its issues, the very fact that it's on the verge of reaching market and is gaining more support from big names in the gaming world is a testament to both its potential and the hard work of its creators.

If he and those of the same mindset can no longer bare patience with its evolution, then my suggestion to them would be to find somewhere more deserving of their time and temperament.

[dcninja123]

alo- I don't have assumptions of what it's supposed to be either. it's an android box. what it does is limited to what is created for it. what has been created for it is by in large, trash.
I mean, the only assumption I have is that it's supposed to have fun games on it. I guess I failed because I thought I'd have fun with this thing? come on man...

xun - pleeeeeease... ever heard of a pc? no one needs licensing... as for development and distribution, you must not understand how this works. A game needs to be developed and distributed in order for you to play it.
you forget that this thing is basically a chinese android handheld without a screen, those things are a dime a dozen and have better software than the ouya ships with in regard to it's OS menu/skin whatever you call the ouya menu thing.

i did not ask for your suggestions xun... but there's no patience to be had... if something good comes along I will play it, until then it will collect dust. it's quite simple really. It's just funny because people on here feel the need to defend this thing from some lone nut on the internet whose opinion that doesn't really matter...every post I make that has anything negative in it brings out the delusional thinking in people. it's funny to me, that's why I do it, but the statements I make are all 100% true.

[Akulya]

A BIT OF FIST OF AWESOME is pretty...awesome. Though it it just a demo at the moment. I'm cheap and haven't bought any games yet, either. It is pretty sweet as an snes emulator, though.

[alo]

I guess I failed because I thought I'd have fun with this thing? come on man...

No, you never would've had fun with it, because you were expecting something that wasn't ever going to happen. Sell it and move on.

[iSlandFace]

you forget that this thing is basically a chinese android handheld

You do realize that every Android phone/tablet is a Chinese MADE Android handheld and every iPhone is a Chinese MADE iPhone/iPad and every Macbook is a Chinese MADE laptop and ever WIndows computer is a Chinese MADE computer and every TV is a Chinese MADE TV.

You get my point.

Everything is made in China and the Chinese Android handhelds you talk about (the kind where the everything including the software is made by a chinese company), differ from the Ouya because the Ouya has after sales support and and continuing work on the software. The Chinese android handhelds interface will say things like "To off power, please press button power". To claim that Ouya is done developing the console because they got your money from kickstarter and thats all they wanted to do is foolish. I guarantee Ouya has not seen any kind of profit yet and businesses don't just start, make some money, and then shut down. They continue to work and get better in order to make more money. That is something a child should understand but you obviously don't. I agree the Ouya has some problems but, the software has not had the "retail" build released, games take time to make, and people like you will sell their Ouya's and the Ouya community will be much better off.

[arcticdog]

why would you believe in something that is failing out the gate? Don't defend it for what you wish it was, hate it for what it is. It has "launched" as it's in our hands. Nobody donated anything. Read the kickstarter eula. We were promised a console in exchange for our money, that is a legal SALE. Nothing was gifted buddy. It clearly has zero great games.

Good software development takes time. Rushed games and ports are always apparent by their time to market. Some games take 6 weeks to make, and it shows. Some games take a year to make, and it shows. I'm sure you're intelligent enough to Google the nuances of this process if you're truly interested in making a fair judgment and correlation to time and quality.

By your own admission, you must buy a lot of non-great games on your phone/tablet? Or are some of those purchases worthwhile? The timing of your purchases are not a fault of the platform. It's fair to not like games outside of those you already own, but it's not fair to say there are zero great games if you thought they were good enough to buy elsewhere.

Since you showed up here, you seem to lack a degree of perspective on how businesses work. Your investment (or sale.. whatever you want to call it) is minuscule compared to the recent investments of millions of dollars into the company. But hey.. maybe you see something those investors with deep pockets and years of business development experience don't see.

to elaborate on my indie games are garbage blahblahblah...

The same games have been created in better quality, or in flash. There's nothing great about someone reinventing the wheel, and a bad one at that.

I do agree with you here though. I'm not thrilled with the notion of a zillion more endless runners, bejeweled clones or "ville" games with endless stat grinding and patience preying. But the cost of entry into this platform is very low. Lower than other devices. So there will be plenty of "made in a day" garbage trying to pass off as games. Hopefully the processes they have in place to rank games by play will make finding the better games easier.

Hopefully you enjoy it as an emulator box, and you check into the store later on when things mature a bit.

[Xun]

pleeeeeease... ever heard of a pc? no one needs licensing... as for development and distribution, you must not understand how this works. A game needs to be developed and distributed in order for you to play it.
you forget that this thing is basically a chinese android handheld without a screen, those things are a dime a dozen and have better software than the ouya ships with in regard to it's OS menu/skin whatever you call the ouya menu thing.

1.) I basically described the steps taken by for development on consoles by developers. While one of the three aforementioned features will be of most importance in each case, they still tend to follow this pattern. What makes it so expensive for those who want to develop games (indie or otherwise) is the amount of money needed to make it work for them. The Ouya removes a major part of these costs by substituting flash storage for disc storage and by making development a free endeavour instead of charging developers $100,000+ for a SDK. That's why it's getting support from developers like Sega, for instance.

2.) As far as I know, there are two Chinese android based handhelds and both are less powerful than the Ouya. Moreover, most of the games on them are either emulator based or sideloaded while the Ouya is capable of having original games and playing them in an environment more suited to their graphical demands.

i did not ask for your suggestions xun... but there's no patience to be had... if something good comes along I will play it, until then it will collect dust. it's quite simple really. It's just funny because people on here feel the need to defend this thing from some lone nut on the internet whose opinion that doesn't really matter...every post I make that has anything negative in it brings out the delusional thinking in people. it's funny to me, that's why I do it, but the statements I make are all 100% true.

The people who seriously support this platform are, from my experience, the ones who appear to be the least idealistic (using the word "delusional" is inappropriate) about it. They know what Kickstarter is, they know how hard it is for a company to bring a console to market and they support the efforts of Ouya's creators despite their challenges.

The people who don't seriously support the platform are, with certain exceptions, the opposite.

By "acting" like this, you're making yourself seem like the latter.