HDMI hookups

[MX Woods3]

Ok i got a question, everyone knows ouya's using a hdmi cable as hookups for your tv. Thing is, not EVERYONE has a hd tv OR the plug-in so you can play the ouya on your tv. My question is why couldn't the hookups for the ouya been regular yellow, white, and red? why did it have to be HDMI? If the ouya corporation or a third-party company doesn't make a composite cable for the console, they won't get the sales as they hoped for. WE NEED A COMPOSITE. Not everyone has the money for big flashy HD tvs. Please tell me that ouya knows of this problem and is planning on making a composite cable for it? or HELP me get ouya's attention on this matter. I know its not only me thinking this.

[ishred11]

I totally agree!! ^^^

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[James Andrew Coote]

I managed to get a converter cable for my PC monitor for like £3 over the internet. I imagine you can get a similar one for adapting HDMI to whatever TV you have. However, when you do this, the OUYA defaults to the lowest resolution. I've been told this is because HDMI allows the OUYA to know what resolution the TV is running and so pick the best res, and I guess in turn, that's why OUYA uses HDMI. I agree, it'd be nice though if they could include more options cable/converter wise.

[Jack_Mcslay]

For the simple reason that A/V out is of unacceptable image quality for modern gaming. Besides, Tegra 3 does not support analog video, they would have to add the converter to the console to enable it, adding to the unit cost. HDMI->AV converters are widely available, but you have to consider most games will not be designed with resolutions lower than 1280x720 in mind

[MX Woods3]

i understand what your saying but if this is true then this will cause the ouya to suffer terribly. AND that Tegra 3 not supporting analog makes no sense to me because it isnt AS strong as a console's gaming/graphics chip such as Xbox 360 or PS3's and they both play analog, AND digital. that is why i am saying, they shouldn't have made the HDMI cable and made or at least SHOULD make a converter that can be sold SEPARATELY. because sure i would go out to buy a converter adapter for the ouya but that because i am excited for it and been waiting for it for SOOOO long like everyone else on these forums. but someone who is interested in it and will to try it isn't going to go the extra mile and buy a $40 dollar converter adapter for a console they dont even know they will like.

[d_brennen]

HDMI is part of the Tegra 3 spec iirc, it has no analogue out and adding such would have cost extra. I feel for those stuck with ancient TVs/monitors but I don't think the majority should pay extra for something they will never need/use

[Jack_Mcslay]

i understand what your saying but if this is true then this will cause the ouya to suffer terribly. AND that Tegra 3 not supporting analog makes no sense to me because it isnt AS strong as a console's gaming/graphics chip such as Xbox 360 or PS3's and they both play analog, AND digital. that is why i am saying, they shouldn't have made the HDMI cable and made or at least SHOULD make a converter that can be sold SEPARATELY. because sure i would go out to buy a converter adapter for the ouya but that because i am excited for it and been waiting for it for SOOOO long like everyone else on these forums. but someone who is interested in it and will to try it isn't going to go the extra mile and buy a $40 dollar converter adapter for a console they dont even know they will like.

Why? $140 is still way below any modern console and quite cheaper than anything else with a Tegra3 SOC. It's not likely they won't have another use for it, as tablets, laptops, desktops, smartphones and a few cameras also lack A/V out. The only device with an ARM processor I know that has A/V out is the Raspbery PI, and that's because the SOC already supported it so they just put the RCA connector there. Tegra 3 does not, so they would need to add the converter to the hardware, probably adding at least $25 to the unit cost

Your X360/PS3 analogy makes no sense. They were around back in 2006, when NOBODY had an HDTV. I'll be surprised if the PS4/X720 are announced with support for analog video. Today you can buy good quality 24" TVs for cheap, there's no real reason anyone with a balanced budget shouldn't be able to buy one.

I managed to get a converter cable for my PC monitor for like £3 over the internet. I imagine you can get a similar one for adapting HDMI to whatever TV you have. However, when you do this, the OUYA defaults to the lowest resolution. I've been told this is because HDMI allows the OUYA to know what resolution the TV is running and so pick the best res, and I guess in turn, that's why OUYA uses HDMI. I agree, it'd be nice though if they could include more options cable/converter wise.

VGA or DVI? HDMI is already supposed to output DVI with passive conversions, if it's VGA, component might well be possible to get passively, but composite is still dead in the water without an active converter.

[MX Woods3]

Why? $140 is still way below any modern console and quite cheaper than anything else with a Tegra3 SOC. It's not likely they won't have another use for it, as tablets, laptops, desktops, smartphones and a few cameras also lack A/V out. The only device with an ARM processor I know that has A/V out is the Raspbery PI, and that's because the SOC already supported it so they just put the RCA connector there. Tegra 3 does not, so they would need to add the converter to the hardware, probably adding at least $25 to the unit cost

Your X360/PS3 analogy makes no sense. They were around back in 2006, when NOBODY had an HDTV. I'll be surprised if the PS4/X720 are announced with support for analog video. Today you can buy good quality 24" TVs for cheap, there's no real reason anyone with a balanced budget shouldn't be able to buy one.


VGA or DVI? HDMI is already supposed to output DVI with passive conversions, if it's VGA, component might well be possible to get passively, but composite is still dead in the water without an active converter.

The point i was trying to make with the xbox 360 and ps3 analogy was that true, they were created back in 2006 and nobody had a hdtv your correct, BUT there graphic cards inside those consoles are ALOT stronger then Tegra 3 and they play on analog televisions. Basicly what i am trying to say is, the graphic cards on todays consoles, are stronger then the one in the ouya and they were made 7 going on 8 years ago and yet it requires HD porting. I just wanted another option then hdmi that didnt HAVE to come with the OUYA so that way, it could still stay at its normal price tag, but for those who are not upgraded to todays consumer electroinics still able to buy a composite separate. and if you think about it, it could just be more money coming in on the side for those willing to do it.

[Masaaki]

The point i was trying to make with the xbox 360 and ps3 analogy was that true, they were created back in 2006 and nobody had a hdtv your correct, BUT there graphic cards inside those consoles are ALOT stronger then Tegra 3 and they play on analog televisions. Basicly what i am trying to say is, the graphic cards on todays consoles, are stronger then the one in the ouya and they were made 7 going on 8 years ago and yet it requires HD porting.

Just curious, what does the power of a graphics card have to do with output ports?

[Jack_Mcslay]

GPUs do not output video, that's the role of the video encoder circuit. No matter how powerful or underpowered it is, it has nothing to do with video output. It's like questioning why is an Audi more comfortable than a Ferrari if the Ferrari is a faster car.

The Tegra line of SOCs did not exist in 2006. Tegra3 was launched on a time when TVs with HDMI input were quicky becoming ubiquitous, therefore would be no point in including A/V out