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NeedleBanger
12-28-2014, 12:54 AM
Here's a couple things that would make my entire OUYA experience a whole lot better & a lot less glitchy:

1. There needs to be an option to turn off the touchpad on the OUYA controller. It's used for about 2% of functions, and if anything bumps it while you're watching a video it crashes your video. It's just cheap, trashy, & useless. This whole problem would be resolved through use of a PS3 controller, however...

2. The PS3 controllers don't turn off when they're synced to the OUYA. No options whatsoever to turn the controller off. They just permanently stay on until they die. It's completely retarded. There should be a way to have the controller shut off when you turn off the OUYA at the bare minimum.


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Killswitch
12-30-2014, 03:26 PM
I don't know about cheap or trashy but it's not useless. There are people who sideload things and that is where it gets most of it's use except for maybe a handful of games. So it's not useless. I don't sideload and don't care if it's there or not but there is a big percentage of people who use Google Play for some reason and other things where it is necessary to have it.

And PS3 controllers are not made by OUYA, that is not their responsibility. If they can do something about it then fine but no one should hold them responsible for something not even made by them.

Kaimega
12-30-2014, 04:28 PM
There are a number of games on discover that utilize the touchpad as well.. Also never had a video crash when using the touchpad..

Sitting Fox
01-02-2015, 01:10 AM
Hey NeedleBanger,

1. I have not had any issues between the touchpad and videos. Where is this happening for you? I use the Youtube app and the given XBMC in Discover.

2. My PS3 controller shuts off when I turn off the OUYA.... Every time. Maybe it has something to do with the particular controller itself? Hmm, not sure. Alternatively, you can hold down the button on the controller to shut it down. This thread here might help: ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?12133-How-do-i-turn-off-my-PS3-controller

In either case, if the things can be narrowed down, maybe solutions can be more easily found. :)

NeedleBanger
01-02-2015, 04:12 AM
99% of the time if anything brushes the touchpad it ends up crashing whatever I'm doing. It happened 5 seconds ago, it happens every day. I don't play cellphone games so the touchpad is totally useless for me, I would love an option to turn it off.

All PS3 controllers I've tried to synch won't turn off. I guess it's just an issue with my 5 different PS3 controllers & brand new OUYA system. What else is new.


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undftdroar
01-02-2015, 04:32 AM
the touchpad only ever crashed XBMC never anything else, please be more specific with what games or apps are crashing.

I paired a ps3 controller a few times last year and i always held the ps button for like 10 secs and it will turn off.

Eldon.McGuinness
01-02-2015, 06:47 AM
1. There needs to be an option to turn off the touchpad on the OUYA controller. It's used for about 2% of functions, and if anything bumps it while you're watching a video it crashes your video. It's just cheap, trashy, & useless. This whole problem would be resolved through use of a PS3 controller, however...
Try the KODI releases from kodi.tv if you have not already. I never have had this issue, but then again I never used the XBMC release on the OUYA store either.


2. The PS3 controllers don't turn off when they're synced to the OUYA. No options whatsoever to turn the controller off. They just permanently stay on until they die. It's completely retarded. There should be a way to have the controller shut off when you turn off the OUYA at the bare minimum.
Does it have batteries? if so then pop one out. Not the most elegant solution, but then again it is not an OUYA controller so yea.

ajb999
01-02-2015, 03:11 PM
I paired a ps3 controller a few times last year and i always held the ps button for like 10 secs and it will turn off.

This works for me as well on a couple $10-12 knockoff ps3 controllers I got off eBay.

Sitting Fox
01-02-2015, 08:32 PM
NeedleBanger,


99% of the time if anything brushes the touchpad it ends up crashing whatever I'm doing. It happened 5 seconds ago, it happens every day. I don't play cellphone games so the touchpad is totally useless for me, I would love an option to turn it off.

So it's anything you're ever doing? Playing any OUYA game? In Discover? On the startup screen?

Or are you saying by that last line that you use some sort of XBMC/Kodi setup and not the regular OUYA setup at all?



All PS3 controllers I've tried to synch won't turn off. I guess it's just an issue with my 5 different PS3 controllers & brand new OUYA system. What else is new.

I get you're frustrated, but let's keep talking and trying to figure it out, huh? We're both just human beings, both just users of the same system. I want to help if I can though. :) I can't say I know much, but yeah. xD

As far as I know, there isn't a way to just turn off the track pad. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the OUYA controller's build could instruct you in getting at something in the inside (like cutting a wire or something), though that might be more risky and easy to wreck the controller with a wrong move. It might easily work out to tape a piece of cardstock over that portion of the controller, at least for now.

If you're using some sort of XBMC/Kodi setup (outside of Discover), maybe there's something people on that side can do to fix how the controllers work. Maybe it is their code that isn't handling the input properly. Regardless, maybe they can put in some sort of trackpad-off switch or even something with the PS3 controllers. Like, maybe it's something that has to be done on that end. Or maybe OUYA, inc could make something to cover that sideloaded end of things too, but if it's just there, that's something important to specify.

I don't sideload things, so I don't know if that's what happens with that stuff. But like I said, if a more specific scenario can be narrowed down, then maybe that can better help the issue being fixed on the software side (be it needed to be done by OUYA, inc or otherwise) or realize if some defective hardware is at work. Coming from someone who helps with computer troubleshooting at times, it's very hard to solve a problem if I can't replicate it and/or the scenario is laid out rather vague. I don't know where to look to start fixing it then.

NeedleBanger
01-04-2015, 05:09 AM
From what I can tell the touchpad is stable when I'm playing games, it's HORRIBLE when I'm watching videos, namely the XMBC program. It is a crashing nightmare at all times whenever the touchpad is brushed. It's the only thing slowing down my OUYA experience.

Aside from that issue (and the correlated PS3 controller issue) I'm overjoyed with my OUYA purchase. Stick it Telus Mobility.


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Sitting Fox
01-04-2015, 06:14 PM
Hey NeedleBanger,

Thanks for narrowing that down. :D I went and powered up my OUYA and did some tests.

With the XBMC app from Discover, you can get it to crash or quit with the trackpad. It didn't happen didn't happen instantly, but I was able to get it to often enough.

I thought I caught a little option popping up at one point. I think it might not be so much that it's crashing that it's triggering some quit button or option. Though, I was able to use the trackpad to navigate through XBMC, and at some points, it quit during that. So it might just be crashing. At some points, it would take a good bit of playing with it to do it though. So a brush might not trigger it every time.

Maybe I've never really brushed the trackpad while playing, or maybe I did and it was an instance where it didn't trigger a quit or crash. Or maybe it did and I just didn't notice the two in conjunction and figured it was just being stupid. Maybe it's update related. Dunno.

Regardless, it seems no one else noticed it. xD So good job, NeedleBanger. :D

I didn't seem to have any such issues with the Youtube app from Discover. However, I did manage to get it to zoom in and could not get it to go back.... Not without quitting it, at least. Probably not a good feature to have at all. xD Don't really see the need for zoom.

Testing with my PS3 controller wirelessly, it powers off when the system powers off (from the long power press or the semi-long one and hitting OK to power off). It still does not power off when you put the OUYA to sleep (either from menu or the quick press of the power button), nor from choosing the option to shut off the controller from the menu. This is the same as from the last I tested it. Didn't bother to test the PS3 controller button power off, but if that doesn't work, then that's a controller issues anyway. xD

I'm in the US, and my OUYA is the black 16 gig, so of the newest models (as is my OUYA controller). The PS3 controller says:

FCC ID: AK8CECHZC01
MODEL: CECHZC1U
IC: 409B-CECHZC01

And I make out the number beneath serial code thing (it's kinda faded) to be:
1017091110233

So if PS3 controllers are behaving differently for different people, maybe we can figure out if they're certain kinds that do that.

More testers! xD



UPDATE: In XBMC, if you go into System settings, Input devices, you can disable mouse and touch support. I'm not sure how much it actually helps (as I was still able to get it to crash), but it seems to at least make it a little harder. I thought it might fully disable it, but the trackpad seems to be able to click and stuff again if you play with it enough, though seemingly not right away.

NeedleBanger
01-04-2015, 11:27 PM
Ok first & foremost I'm going to go right ahead and say that I'M AN IDIOT.

1. I only experience frequent crashes from the touchpad during XMBC, so I hardly see how that's an OUYA specific problem.

2. This one is the kicker... I didn't even know that pressing the power button quickly on the OUYA doesn't shut it off. I even read somewhere that these machines have minimal fan efficiency and shouldn't be left running for long periods of time. I've probably accidentally had mine turned on for the last 3 months, cool man!

Well thanks so much for the help, now my PS3 controllers turn off when I hold down the power button.


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Sitting Fox
01-05-2015, 01:35 AM
It's OK, NeedleBanger. :D

OUYA, inc. put out the XBMC app in Discover, so maybe they can fix that one. Given how this thread's been, it seems you might be the first to notice the problem, whether it's always been there or if it's related to updates.

With the PS3 controllers, if that's the case, maybe the other people who are saying that it's happening to them too are having the same issue. So maybe that'll help them, too.